All EOD can say to Mr. Brockway is............."Chuckle, chuckle"...........
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"Blogging the Bog of Outer Banks Politics"
Tuesday, July 20, 2010
Chuckle, Chuckle
If you are a weekly reader of The Outer Banks Sentinel (EOD's favorite local newspaper) you will find a "letter to the editor" in tomorrow's issue (Wednesday) written by Mr. Barry Brockway of Brooklyn, NY. Mr. Brockway is the owner of a beachbox cottage in south Nags Head, where the owners have been harping for beach nourishment for the past ten years or so. EOD has butted heads with Brockway for several years over this issue and probably shouldn't waste any more time with him. However, we will give him notice here for a moment, if only for local residents to see the "mindset" held by, not only Warren Judge, Renee Cahoon, Anna Sadler, Ray Sturza etc. (elected officials), but Brockway and many of the out-of-state investors here on the Outer Banks. Folks, these people think we are STUPID! They really believe WE WANT BEACH NOURISHMENT, BUT JUST AREN'T WILLING TO PAY FOR IT!...
All EOD can say to Mr. Brockway is............."Chuckle, chuckle"...........
All EOD can say to Mr. Brockway is............."Chuckle, chuckle"...........
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This joker has written countless letters, post of blogs, etc. he has basically admitted he bought his oceanfront cottage in SNH for a song, in hopes that BN would happen. I call that a fool and his $ soon part. And why does this fool think us residents want BN? If the state assembly asked for public opine (they didnt) to raise occupancy taxes they too would see we didnt want BN. In fact EOD's poll also proves that the small local samplng overwelmingly didnt want the occupancy tax raised for BN. I ask Barry, where and when did teh state or local leaders ask US, the local public if we wanted BN? In fact when did they ask our visitors? Interesting, hasnt the chamber asked every year in their annual questionaire... funny, I've never seen the public result of that...
Let's get real!
Mr. Brockway purchased his cottage in South Nags Head when it was already in harms way and though he would turn a quick buck, but lo and behold beach nourishment was turned down by the voters of Dare County.
Sure Warren Judge and Mr. Brockway want beach nourishment because they have ocean front property, but the rub is that they want anybody or somebody to pay for it as long as nobody asks them to put up any money.
Dear Mr. Brockway,
Sir, you are an idiot.
Thank You
God I hope Mr. Brockway doesn't retire down here.
Brockway's self-serving opinion doesn't even make the radar screen in light of the fact that he isn't even a resident (despite his implication that he lives in South Nags Head). Personally, I hope his house falls into the ocean before BN happens.
I feel honored to be called a joker, fool, idiot and an outside investor on your blog. I must have hit a sore spot. Nonetheless I must set the record straight.While I may be a joker, fool, and an idiot I am not an investor on the Outer Banks. It will be six years in November that I own my second home in South Nags Head. I have no intention to ever sell it.
Dear Mr Brockway,
As a several generations local, I will tell you that I would be happy to pay for beach nourishment if it worked. It does not. It is a huge waste of money.
Why should you or anyone else be permitted to waste taxpayers money in such a stupid manner?
You may as well ask us to pur dollar bills into the ocean.
O-M-G. This poor man has NO freaking IDEA how we locals feel.
I am a NH year-round resident and full-time Realtor making a decent living and I VEHEMENTLY oppose BN for the simple, and only, reason that I believe it will RUIN the beach.
I don't give a rat's hiney HOW it is paid for. I simply do NOT want it, period, and that is how I have voted, Mr. Brockway, and I will thank you for not putting words in my mouth.
We have enough problems around here without absentee owners thinking they know how we feel and how we vote.
He lists himself as from South Nags Head? But he's not?
Doing that, and not living here, is a real quick way to get your ____ kicked. You do not pretend to be a resident of a place you are not a resident.
I agree with the last Anonymous. If BN worked, that would be a different issue. But we know it doesn't. Does Mr. Brockway have any concept of what thousands/millions of dollars is? Is he willing to flush his own money down the toilet like he wants the county to do? And yes, the state NEVER asked residents if they wanted to use occupancy tax dollars for BN. If asked, I would have said NO !
Mr. Brockway,
Sure you have no intention to sell your SNH home right now which is in peril because no one would buy it. But when you and your bud Judge get your way and have taxpayer funds pony up the money for beach nourishment, my bet is that you will sell it in a heartbeat.
This Kitty Hawk Beach Road resident and vintage real estate broker is absolutely opposed to beach "nourishment", too. I don't want a fake beach for even the brief time that the wretched thing will last. Just look at the hard clay cliffs on Kitty Hawk's beach as a result of the Currituck mud application. And just look at Ray's photos of the Nags Head mess. I don't want it no matter who pays for it.
I never made reference to the fact that I was a Nags Head resident. I signed the letter to the Sentinel South Nags Head Oceanfront Homeowner. They skipped the last two words. Ask the editor of the paper yourself. Secondly, I must ask where does all this venom and hatred come from? While I might not see eye to eye with the writer of this blog I wish no ill will on Ray. Third, I would like to say many people on this board sound like the naysayers opposing sending a man to the moon in the sixties. What if beach nourishment does work. It could be a tremendous accomplishment.
"Sparky" (that's Barry Brockway's nickname),
I think the readers of this blog are giving you a good lesson in reality; the same lesson they would give our elected leaders if they would only listen to them.
Vote?
Don't hold your breath. Warren Judge and all of them knows how every resident of Dare feels about this matter. They just don't care.
Ray, i will tell you my reality. There is never an appropriate time to spew venom and wish ill-will on others. My cup is always half full. I see the positive in any situation. No matter how daunting and difficult the task at hand. I told you that beach nourishment would come to Nags Head five years ago on the OBC message board. Well, get ready, because here it comes. It may have taken longer than I originally thought but make no mistake, that time is right around the corner. Maybe it is time for people to start working together rather than remaining in this polarized state. The people that are so damning of a well thought out plan only can say it is a waste of 36 million dollars. But did these people ever complain about Ronal Reagan wasting 100 billion on a star wars defense plan that did not work. I do not know but .001 of that wasted federal monies would have paid for the initial nourishment plan proposed for the county. That is where the outrage should be.
Barry,
It is an undeniable fact that the vast majority of Dare County taxpayers do not support beach nourishment, regardless of who pays for it. They simply don't think it will be cost effective on our beaches no matter where else it has been tried. Can't you respect them for that? And, shouldn't the wishes of the resident majority here in the county take precident over non-residents, no matter how important you or they say they are to our economy? I believe so. Unfortunately, you and Warren Judge, who migrated here from Virginia to run his wife's family motels think differently. So, all we can do right now is stand up and ask to be heard, with hopes that one day he will be out of office, along with others who want to over-develop this place.
Ray
How many times do the voting public of Dare County have to say NO?
Well, Mr. Brockway, thanks to self serving people like Commissioner Judge, it does not matter what the voters want.
And you ask for people to work together? Mr. Brockway, either you were not around or did not pay attention to the last attempt at beach nourishment in SNH.
Ray, PLEASE post some pictures of the last ill-fated attempt to refresh Mr. Brockways memory!
Mr. Brockway, I think the real issue with your view on beach nourishment has been revealed in your last post.
You believe in things that don't work and don't believe in things that do work.
Star Wars does in fact work.
ICBM interceptors have had a non stop string of successes since the 90's and are deployed, air based chemical intercept lasers are flying and continue in test, ship mounted lasers just knocked down several drones - a first ever in the world....
Star Wars does in fact work and has had a very real impact on strategic assessments despite tired mantra's from those who continue to believe otherwise.
On the other hand, beach nourishment has been demonstrated the world over to be at best a temporary fix. When coupled with other stabilization methods, beach nourishment may see the life cycle extended however the banks are almost 100% sand deposited by currents and weather events.
Any method of stabilization will be foreign to the very nature of the banks and therein lies the real debate.
That we can introduce those stabilization methods does not mean that we should to protect your house and the properties of a handful of others who live directly on the beach.
Before whizzing away yet more money and resources - and make no mistake, political capital is a very real resource - on poor solutions that few prefer, a genuine plan needs to be settled by the people who'll have to live with the results for years to come.
That plan may be to let nature takes its course, go the distance on real stabilization or something between.
When you and other beach nourishment proponents are ready to have the real debate on what the residents of the banks want the outcome to be and not what you and yours think it should be, perhaps you won't be met with such resistance.
The venom comes from the fact that we LIKE our beach the way it is now. We don't want any "accomplishment" other than leaving the beach BE, as Mother Nature intends, for better or for worse.
If we wanted to live on a fake beach we know where plenty of them are.
Barry,
I think the worst venom that has been spread in this issue started with the half-truths circulated by the special interest groups promoting beach nourishment before the county commissioners, led by Stan White and Warren Judge spewed forth and taxed us when they knew the majority didn't support it. Then, Anna Sadler spewed forth more venom with her "I don't care what the voters said," statement.
There has been an extreme amount of selfishness displayed over this matter. And, it's wrong to accuse locals of wanting people's cottages to wash away. Locals are only excercising good common sense and speaking from the heart and not from their pocketbooks.
While most of the beachhuggers insist that we must let nature take its course and retreat from building on the oceanfront. Not any one of you ever complains about the 7 to 10 million a year that is spent by the Federal Governmmet to dredge Oregon Inlet. More than 150 million has been spent over the last twenty years. Why not let nature take its course and let the inlet close up. Is it because the Federal Government foots the bill and the Dare county taxpayers do not have to pay? Or do you really beleive in letting nature take its course? Or do you realy beleive that it is ok for government to step in and intervene and protect businesses when mother nature intervenes?
For my part, I can answer that question, for the umteenth time. First, I don't think retreat is an option. I believe it will slowly become a necessity, as it has now done in some areas of south Nags Head. Retreat does not have to be a mass exodus away from where we have built. It will/should come in a planned matter; and,slowly, as nature dictates. And, the cost should be borne by those who own the properties. However, should the Outer Banks experience a terrible natural disaster, away from the slow progression of natural beach erosion, I certainly believe we can and should expect the federal govt' to offer some help, as they do in other natural disaster areas.
As to Oregon Inlet, I am 100% in favor of keeping it open by whatever sensible means possible. Right now dredging is the only option available to us. I support that effort. I also support a groin on the northside and wish we could get it placed there. However, the groin will do nothing whatsoever to help beach erosion on our northern beaches, including Nags Head. Also, a groin along the southly town limits would do nothing to help the town. It would do more harm than good. Finally, "Let Nature take its course" is not a lazy man's term. Often times it is the "realty" of our "past experiences". We simply cannot do what the forces of nature won't allow, no matter how much money we throw at it.
In the opinion of the idiot,jokester,and fool that is a tremendous contradiction in philosophy. You are telling me that Government can intervene and waste precious taxpayer dollars to assist a few wealthy boat owners to run their business but it can't assist a few homeowners to run their business? I certainly have a dilemma with that logic. Why not make the boatowners pay for it? I personally think that government should intervene in both cases and you are telling me they should only try and intervene in one.I am perplexed.
So much for the theory about the residents not having to pay for BN:
http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/07/22/sand-plan-will-bank-on-oceanfront-property-owners/#more-13746
The Inlets are not dredged and kept open for "a few wealthy boat owners." They are for all the inland commercial fishermen whose sole means of making a living depend on open outlets to the ocean, in large part.
Open inlets at Hatteras and Oregon Inlet keep other areas from opening up during storms, like Whalebone Junction, Bodie Island, Caffey's Inlet in Duck, just toname a few.
They don't prevent occasional biggies like "Isabel Inlet" between Frisco and Hatteras Village, but open inlets DO keep some of our developed areas safer.
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