Rally the pro ORV crowd to post about how it just another nail in the coffin and how soon Hatteras will be a ghost town and how the environmental groups and NPS are in bed together and how the federal judge is the pockets of Audobon.
But wait, this ruling will give our county commissioner Warren Judge the opportunity to exclaim "Lets roll" and spend millions more to promote his political agenda and garner the vote of Dare County voters.
Indeed, and this time Warren Judge will have to foot the entire bill for his pricey DC lawyers. Losers don't get to collect fees from the government! I bet this case alone cost Dare and CHAPA $500,000.
Dare needs to start adapting to the new reality. Nothing's going to change at NPS (except new permits and fees when the ORV plan comes out). Warren can spend millions fulminating in court or he can spend his time and our money doing something positive for our future.
We should thank Warren, Allen Richard, Virginia, Mike, Max and Jack for standing up for access in the National Seashore Recreational Area. Dare County was a Defendant Intervener on behalf of the National Park Service. The lawsuit was about access for eveyone, whether you wanted to go to beach by foot, or vehicle, your access has been and will continue to be restricted by closeurs that have distances 4 times greater than what US Fish and Wildlife Sceintists say is necessary. This is what our County Commissioners were and continue to fight for. If would you understand what they are doing for the Seashore and the Bridge you would know they are most definity doing somthing positive for our future.
"We should thank Warren, Allen Richard, Virginia, Mike, Max and Jack for standing up for access in the National Seashore Recreational Area"
YES, thanks for spending our tax dollars on "standing up for access" and many other wasteful projects i.e. the new governmental center with those nice comfortable chairs. YES, thanks for the tax increase to pay for all those silly moves. NOW sit down and run our county with fiscal responsbility.
Less talk and more action by the likes of Commissioner Judge would be a good start!
"another nail in the coffin and how soon Hatteras will be a ghost town and how the environmental groups and NPS are in bed together and how the federal judge is the pockets of Audobon."
And whats not true about these statements? Please tell how closing off pedestrian access to the most popular beach recreational areas on HI during the height of the tourist season helps in any way?
If you understand anything about the law and how this has played out time and again at other seashores, you will see that Warren, et al, are simply posturing to their base. They can continue to throw good money after bad, but this issue is over.
Fact of the matter is it is they who continually overstate the extent of closures and the impact on the economy. And they bear as much responsibility as anyone for any losses that may have occurred.
This is a period of transition. Wise leaders would look down the road and recognize what can and cannot be changed. Remember the "serenity prayer"? Well, NPS is required to have an ORV plan and protect species. That plan will have, if only for administrative reasons, permits and fees. Species protections will be in place as they have been now to some degree or another for years now.
The economy has not come to a grinding halt, not even in a recession. The federal judge in the critical habitat case completely rejected Warren et al's economic arguments.
And for the one who claims the judge was in the pocket of Audubon, bwahaha! This is the same judge who ruled FOR Warren and CHAPA the first time they sued over critical habitat. He's no greenie. I bet they were thrilled to get him again! The fact that he ruled as he did in this round shows just how weak the case really was.
It's time to move forward together and accept the new reality. There will be winners and losers, sure. But the sky will not fall. Is Warren gonna cling like Bull Connor to the past? Or will he and the council wise up?
EOD has to agree. It's time for Commissioner Warren Judge to stop trying to gather political capital on Hatteras Island, and, more importantly stop wasting taxpayer funds on what is a done deal, whether we like it or not. Frankly, EOD would love to see a financial accounting of just how much money Judge has spent on this matter. And, for what?
Warren is just getting all his ducks in a row. Scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours. Support all the ORV access for Hatteras Island and the Hatteras locals will support beach nourishment for Warren and friends. Pedestrian access for the National Seashore, only when and where it is convenient for the ORV posse, what a joke!
Wouldn't it have been nice if the money and energy had instead been spent to help the small businesses adapt and grow instead of to put up signs with raised middle fingers to greet visitors coming to the lighthouse? Think that unwelcoming attitude has anything to do with perceived loss of business? Guests don't want to engage in hostile local battles when they are trying to relax and they sure don't want to explain to their children why there is a tombstone and bird being flipped at them instead of a Welcome to Buxton sign. Though some of the rednecks are probably encouraging their children to bring their shotguns next time, most of our guests could care less or if they do would agree they like walking on safe unrutted beaches.
The Buxton signs should accurately read, "Save Our Beaches, For Us" the us being the handful of business owners (and their employees) in Buxton that have some revenue loss because of temporary resource closures and the retirees that have moved here to ride the NP beach. Be absolutely assured some of these people have purposely poured gas on the fire to make the beach closures economically worse than they should be. Those retirees have little stake in the local economy other than as a tool to gain support for ORV access for themselves.
I do not believe Warren, Allen, Virginia, Richard, Mike, Max and Jack are clinging to the past. I believe they have done a very good job in representing us on the issue of access. Again there are those that make this an ORV issue, it is an access for all issue. I love to fish Cape Point, I use my ORV to reach the point. Just like at Oregon Inlet the only reason I drive on the beach is to get to the beach. Without that access I would walk. But guess what the extensive closuers 4 times greater than what the Government Sceintists say is necessary, kept me from being able to walk to my favorite fishing areas. And my wife could not access the beach with our children to spend a the day at the beach. Let's use our collective efforts to work for a good solution, like our Commissioner's postion, Protection for birds, turtles and vegetabtion along with access for all in the Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area.
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LET THE WHINE BEGIN!
Rally the pro ORV crowd to post about how it just another nail in the coffin and how soon Hatteras will be a ghost town and how the environmental groups and NPS are in bed together and how the federal judge is the pockets of Audobon.
But wait, this ruling will give our county commissioner Warren Judge the opportunity to exclaim "Lets roll" and spend millions more to promote his political agenda and garner the vote of Dare County voters.
Indeed, and this time Warren Judge will have to foot the entire bill for his pricey DC lawyers. Losers don't get to collect fees from the government! I bet this case alone cost Dare and CHAPA $500,000.
Dare needs to start adapting to the new reality. Nothing's going to change at NPS (except new permits and fees when the ORV plan comes out). Warren can spend millions fulminating in court or he can spend his time and our money doing something positive for our future.
We should thank Warren, Allen Richard, Virginia, Mike, Max and Jack for standing up for access in the National Seashore Recreational Area. Dare County was a Defendant Intervener on behalf of the National Park Service. The lawsuit was about access for eveyone, whether you wanted to go to beach by foot, or vehicle, your access has been and will continue to be restricted by closeurs that have distances 4 times greater than what US Fish and Wildlife Sceintists say is necessary. This is what our County Commissioners were and continue to fight for. If would you understand what they are doing for the Seashore and the Bridge you would know they are most definity doing somthing positive for our future.
"We should thank Warren, Allen Richard, Virginia, Mike, Max and Jack for standing up for access in the National Seashore Recreational Area"
YES, thanks for spending our tax dollars on "standing up for access" and many other wasteful projects i.e. the new governmental center with those nice comfortable chairs. YES, thanks for the tax increase to pay for all those silly moves. NOW sit down and run our county with fiscal responsbility.
Less talk and more action by the likes of Commissioner Judge would be a good start!
"another nail in the coffin and how soon Hatteras will be a ghost town and how the environmental groups and NPS are in bed together and how the federal judge is the pockets of Audobon."
And whats not true about these statements?
Please tell how closing off pedestrian access to the most popular beach recreational areas on HI during the height of the tourist season helps in any way?
If you understand anything about the law and how this has played out time and again at other seashores, you will see that Warren, et al, are simply posturing to their base. They can continue to throw good money after bad, but this issue is over.
Fact of the matter is it is they who continually overstate the extent of closures and the impact on the economy. And they bear as much responsibility as anyone for any losses that may have occurred.
This is a period of transition. Wise leaders would look down the road and recognize what can and cannot be changed. Remember the "serenity prayer"? Well, NPS is required to have an ORV plan and protect species. That plan will have, if only for administrative reasons, permits and fees. Species protections will be in place as they have been now to some degree or another for years now.
The economy has not come to a grinding halt, not even in a recession. The federal judge in the critical habitat case completely rejected Warren et al's economic arguments.
And for the one who claims the judge was in the pocket of Audubon, bwahaha! This is the same judge who ruled FOR Warren and CHAPA the first time they sued over critical habitat. He's no greenie. I bet they were thrilled to get him again! The fact that he ruled as he did in this round shows just how weak the case really was.
It's time to move forward together and accept the new reality. There will be winners and losers, sure. But the sky will not fall. Is Warren gonna cling like Bull Connor to the past? Or will he and the council wise up?
EOD has to agree. It's time for Commissioner Warren Judge to stop trying to gather political capital on Hatteras Island, and, more importantly stop wasting taxpayer funds on what is a done deal, whether we like it or not.
Frankly, EOD would love to see a financial accounting of just how much money Judge has spent on this matter. And, for what?
Warren is just getting all his ducks in a row. Scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours. Support all the ORV access for Hatteras Island and the Hatteras locals will support beach nourishment for Warren and friends.
Pedestrian access for the National Seashore, only when and where it is convenient for the ORV posse, what a joke!
Wouldn't it have been nice if the money and energy had instead been spent to help the small businesses adapt and grow instead of to put up signs with raised middle fingers to greet visitors coming to the lighthouse? Think that unwelcoming attitude has anything to do with perceived loss of business? Guests don't want to engage in hostile local battles when they are trying to relax and they sure don't want to explain to their children why there is a tombstone and bird being flipped at them instead of a Welcome to Buxton sign. Though some of the rednecks are probably encouraging their children to bring their shotguns next time, most of our guests could care less or if they do would agree they like walking on safe unrutted beaches.
The Buxton signs should accurately read, "Save Our Beaches, For Us" the us being the handful of business owners (and their employees) in Buxton that have some revenue loss because of temporary resource closures and the retirees that have moved here to ride the NP beach. Be absolutely assured some of these people have purposely poured gas on the fire to make the beach closures economically worse than they should be. Those retirees have little stake in the local economy other than as a tool to gain support for ORV access for themselves.
I do not believe Warren, Allen, Virginia, Richard, Mike, Max and Jack are clinging to the past. I believe they have done a very good job in representing us on the issue of access. Again there are those that make this an ORV issue, it is an access for all issue. I love to fish Cape Point, I use my ORV to reach the point. Just like at Oregon Inlet the only reason I drive on the beach is to get to the beach. Without that access I would walk. But guess what the extensive closuers 4 times greater than what the Government Sceintists say is necessary, kept me from being able to walk to my favorite fishing areas. And my wife could not access the beach with our children to spend a the day at the beach. Let's use our collective efforts to work for a good solution, like our Commissioner's postion, Protection for birds, turtles and vegetabtion along with access for all in the Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area.
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